Religion » God Doesn't Need You by: Gifted_Spec(f) .:. Sat, 03 Oct, 2020 - 09:29:13:pm GMT

So many of us think that serving God or knowing God is like we're doing God a favour which is so wrong. For God to acknowledge you,it's a privilege and we do not know the weight of it,so we take it lightly.
Saying God is in need of you is wrong,why? Cause God doesn't need you,it's you that needs Him. He doesn't need you,he only wants you out of His love for you,it's you that sees the want and then you should have the need. We are so lucky that out all of God's creatures,He gave us the grace to maintain something like a relationship with Him and He's mindful of us,calling us to come and enjoy the goodness and dominion in His fatherhood and lordship, meanwhile we're doing anyhow like we answering to God's call will do Him any favour or add anything to Him. Imagine getting a call just from a rich man that you should become His person,you two should get to know each other,no two ways about it you definitely want to be flawless and impress the rich man. How bout God? Think of things he can do with you.
I'm always jealous of people who God uses a lot and I pray for grace to do better, at the same time I pray that those people don't misuse the grace and anointing. Here's me acknowledging that it's me that needs God and He doesn't need me,he only desires us to come and enjoy what He has for us, it's our choice to come or not. So you should never feel like without you, anything about God's plan will change, you're only privileged to be in the plan at all and God has many replacement for days when pride will enter into a man,and the day God replaces you,you loose the glory of God upon your life .The greatest blessing upon a man on Earth here is when you carry God,if you carry God people will ignore the great people on Earth just to acknowledge you,the glory upon you will supercede any other.
If you do not acknowledge that you need God,you can't love Him,I don't just mean needing him to do things for you,I mean needing him to breathe and survive at all in this wicked and unjust world of ours. Until you have the understanding of His essence in your existence and living,you can't understand the love. Why do you think Mercy Chinwo said 'Jesus love is doing her anyhow and one kind' ? It's because it has gotten to the stage when the love expression defers and surpasses every grammar used for expression. Until you're craving to know,until you're desperately curious about it,you cannot know, until you take bold steps to come closer to God first by forsaking sin , preparing your body and mind to enter God's realm, then reading of God's words and speaking to God through prayers. All those things you're curious to know about God, all those things you want to say to and share with Him,taking it all to him in your own words, trust me you'll understand it.
A lot of people desire to hear from God but they keep saying they are not able to because they do not even go to the word that is nearest to us,the Holy scriptures in the Bible,how then do you expect God to speak to you,you do not wait to listen to Him speaking to you through His words . The closer you are to the Holy scriptures,the closer the voice of God is in your spirit.
In all, He that thinks he stands should take heed lest he falls,that's God telling us not to be over familiar or too confident in ourselves cause God doesn't need you ,too much too much He just wants you.


**Xpgpg**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: ObakaEmmanuel(m) .:. Sun, 04 Oct, 2020 - 06:40:41:am GMT

True Sir, God doesn't need us we are the one that need Home. The God that knows time and seasons, the God that called light out of darkness, the Godvthst made the heavens and the earth. He doesn't need a man to be come God. But we mortal men need Him. And that is why when Jesus was on His way going to the city where he will be killed that the people of the village were praising Him, and He said " even if the people stop praising Him, He will raise up stones to praise Him." And my prayer is this may I not get to the point where God will be looking for an alternative to me. Because the worst thing that can happen to man on Earth is to see someone doing what he knows how to do.


You are not serving God in that church because, God needs you, if you are in the urshering department and you refuse to serve Him, he will look for another Stone to replace you. If you are in the choir and you think He needs you more than you need Him, He will replace you with a stone. Even if you are a pastor and you feel He needs you more thatlb you need Him, He will replace you with a stone.

The stone here, don't necessarily mean the normal stone you see on the ground,nor the stone use for building houses and the rest "No." But the person that will come and replace you, will be having the characteristics of that stone. No matter how rain is falling, no matter how heavy it is, the stone will not run from the rain. So when you misbehave and pride comes in, He will bring someone that will never give up in serving Him, no matter what it will cost him. Stone is had to break. When you feel God needs you more than you need Him, He will bring someone that will be had to turn away from Him.

They are many people there that can replace you. See His worm as a privilege.

**Obakaemmanuel**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Fashnet(m) .:. Tue, 06 Oct, 2020 - 12:06:27:pm GMT


I would have completely agreed with you but it is not as you have imputed it. It is totally different with the way God's word put it and the way I viewed it. The word of God makes it clear that we were created by God in his likeness, for his pleasure, for his purpose, his will and to be fulfilled.

I would agree with you if you had said that we are nothing without God and we can not exist on our own as we are ordinary dust but God in his loving kindness and mercy formed us in his likeness and breathed the breath of life in us.

The way it is, is that we totally need God and God has made to by his grace to be useful in his hand and because of the presence of his holy spirit inside of us God now made us important but not of any man's power or ability, it is of God's.

I will sight one or two examples of those God called, used and that God needed for his purpose. Number one is Saul that was converted to Paul. He was standing against the christians, against the body of Christ and against God.

But God needed him to do his work and by this he saved him by grace. It is not that we are worth being needed by God but he has favoured us and put his grace on us and that is why his word says not by power, not by might but by the spirit of the living God.

God needed many other people and he used them like a clay in the hands of the Potter. God needs you, God needs me and God needs everyone to make themselves available for his work. The point is that God can use anyone or thing if we do not make ourselves available.

**Help the needy and love everyone**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Abbey(m) .:. Tue, 06 Oct, 2020 - 01:37:53:pm GMT

Good doesn't need you.

We are the ones that need God, Not because you are going to church every time not because you are working for God means that God need you. We are human being we are the ones who needs God, God has already closed to us it our own duty to also move closer to God.
But in the other way God need you because we are all children of God and he did not want us to perish he doesn't want us to die in sin but to repent.

**Abbey **


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: TYMartins(f) .:. Tue, 06 Oct, 2020 - 05:21:45:pm GMT

Yes, God is God with or without you. However, I feel God needs us as much as we need Him. Let's view it from the angle of friendship, God created man not because he was lonely but he needed an expression of himself who would liase with him, with whom he can commune with and get excited with and laugh it. Back to the beginning, God created Adam, he could have just left and just leave him be. He could have said well He is a spirit as I am, He shouldn't receive so much attention so well, I take my leave. But no. He created man to commune with him, to pour his love on him..To find a channel of expression to his creations. Man is like God's child. God gave birth to man. The bond he shares with man can be likened to the bond a mother share with her new born child. As much as she wants to ignore her baby, it's voice, cry gets her attention. She lives practically for that child. What's the point of creation of it is not needed.

When God sees man, he marvel's at his creation. He yearns not to be neglected. He wants your attention. He is like a bae that needs a boo( you and I ) to woo her. The dimensions of God won't find expression on earth if man does not want it. God cannot just show himself to nothing. He wants to show himself to us. He is a husband that cannot die single (God is forever living). God could have destroyed man if he wanted to, but his heart won't allow him cos there are some that draws the attention of that heart.
Yes, God needs us all. He said come let's reason together. He could have done it his way but he needs your input. He needs of sacrifice of praise and worship, he needs us to call on him, he needs us to share our pains, hurts, laughter with him.
He loves us and wants us as much as we want him. Come unto me he said.
You need him more, yet he needs you too.

**With God nothing is impossible**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Temmylove(f) .:. Tue, 06 Oct, 2020 - 09:38:19:pm GMT


Wow, what a wonderful topic.

Yes, God doesn't need us, we are the one who needs him. He created us in His own image because he wants,if he doesn't want he wouldn't.

God is a God that does things in a way that you can't compare to what a man can do.

We humans, his creature are the ones who need him. He loves us and that is why he created us.

Let's take our day to day live as case study. We go to church to pray, listen to sermon. Let me quickly ask, who do you pray for in the church? God or yourself?
When we listen to sermon, it's of whose benefit?

We seek God because we need him to guide us through in this world. This world is a place where need a guardian who knows the in and out of it and the only person is God.
I don't know if you do experience it too, when I pray I feel the presence of God and at times when am not so composed, I tend to be without the presence and I will be sad but I know God will not be sad, so that is to tell is that all we do here on Earth is for ourselves.

Have you ever imagine it that what was God doing before he created man. God has been in existence before and is still when man is existing and he will when man will be longer here on Earth. So, God was okay before he created us. He created us so that we can benefit from the wonderful things.

So, let's always near it in mind that God is all sufficient and we human must keep it in mind that we will continue to need God all the days of our lives. Shalom!


**God's will be done**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Gifted_Spec(f) .:. Wed, 07 Oct, 2020 - 08:24:18:am GMT


@Fashnet: Thank you very much, I understand your point and you're very right too. God needs us to use us for his glory and he pleases, but the point of what I wrote is basically for those who want to be proud or feel too relevant/ important because of God's grace upon their life. It's me saying God doesn't need them at all because there's so much more people out there for Him to use.

Thanks.

**Xpgpg**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Holashayo(f) .:. Wed, 07 Oct, 2020 - 09:43:27:pm GMT

We need God and at the same time he want us. When we say "need", we are talking about something one can never do without, something that is part of one's daily life. "Want", is what we can actually do without, it is neither pressing nor compulsory.
That is exactly how we are to God and how God is to us.
Definitely, God can do without us our worship, praises, offerings and burnt sacrifice. He is God before we existed, still the same when we are alive and will always remain the same when we are no more. We are a dead body clothed like a human being without God.
God will always have a substitute if you think you are too big to carry out your duty as a minister, what will be your own substitute when God is no more there for you. God is not a respecter of any body!!.
We need God the most in our life.
Let's run to him now with humility.

**Damiswag**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Jojo(f) .:. Thu, 08 Oct, 2020 - 12:21:19:am GMT

God doesn't need you, I have a counter opinion on this.
God is in need of every soul he has created.
In the book of Luke 19:29 And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,19:30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.19:31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.19:32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them.19:33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt?19:34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him.19:35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.19:36 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.19:37 And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen.
Jesus needed the colt in order to ease his movements.
So also, did God needs us for us to spread the gospel around
But, that should not get into our head, because he said in the book of Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
With this, I believe that God needs us.

**God is too faithful to fail**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Wisemamsam(m) .:. Sat, 10 Oct, 2020 - 06:59:02:am GMT


@Fashnet: I love your contribution.

It is very important that we clearly establishe and explain our terms and topic very well.
If u say the existence of man is useless without God, I will totally agree with you, but saying that God does not need us, we are the one that needs up.
Hmmm.

The truth is that God needs us Just like we need him. They wouldn't have a need to creat and make man if there is no need of God. Hope you know that God is all by himself. Man is the very expression of God, he is the definition of God's essence and beauty.

Man was so important to God that he gave his only begotten son. Do you know what it means to give up one only begotten son to purchase man. Wow, how important is man.

So also, man need God. Our completeness as man is in God. Any man who lacks God or who feels he can do without God will end up like king Nebukadnezza. He was a king who was full of self, a man who did not know the importance and place of God In the life of a man.
God needs man, and man needs God.
Thank you.

**Audusamuel**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Flat(m) .:. Thu, 15 Oct, 2020 - 06:45:37:pm GMT

Hmmm! It's always a good thing when different set of individuals have different perspectives to some certain subject but what will put every perspective to be meaningful is when there is a juncture at which they all come to agreement. I always stand to be corrected when am wrong, so do well to correct me if my perspective on the subject is wrong.
You see, running through the Genesis of how the world was created, we would all agreed to me that it is only the Trinity that existed in the whole world, in which this has led God to create all things. Now God created all this out of his image except human that was created in the image of God (Gen 1:1-End). Now, after the creation, the Bible made us to understand that God do come to communicate with his creature, his image (Adam and Eve) in the garden before they brought sin upon themselves and even after that separation, God still make the provisions for them to be able to live comfortably in life. Coming down to the life of Abraham, we could see how God communicated to, likewise Moses, Joshua, David, Isaiah, Elijah, Elisha and some other great men in the scriptures. We can go further to ask ourselves some questions that why didn't God just forget about men and just continue life with the animals he created, why didn't God just wipe off the generation of Noah along side with the other people instead of separating them from perishing in the flood and most of all why didn't God keep his son to himself rather than sending his son to die for us his creature. You see, the spirit will work effectually if and only if there is a body to reside. We all know that God is a spirit and therefore we can only communicate with him only when we are also in spirit in our body.
Take this from me, whatever we call a relationship must be beneficial to the parties involved in the sense that the benefits must not be one sided. God need us and we need, God cannot do anything on earth without us and likewise we cannot do anything without him. There is no point of going through the stress of creating if you don't need.


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Flochords(f) .:. Fri, 16 Oct, 2020 - 02:11:15:pm GMT

Hmmmn. What an interesting topic. God needs us and we need him. Truly, he doesnt need man to be the God that he is, but he created man for his pleasure( that is a reason for creating man) His word says "Thou art worthy o lord, to receive glory honour and power, for thou hast created all things for thy pleasure, they are and were created" We were created to bring pleasure to God, if God doesnt need us, there is no point creating us in the first place. I think it is better said this way that "God doesn't need a man to be the God that he is but man is nothing without God which implies that we need God desperately in all things while God can do with or without us but he chose to do with us out of his own will" We cannot survive without him, but he can survive without us but he chose to take us as his children not minding his sovreignty.
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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Abiodun(m) .:. Thu, 29 Oct, 2020 - 03:52:43:pm GMT

God didn't need you. means that when god rejected you by want you are doing wrong. in the book of 1samuel 28vs 14 to 18 what does he look like .he asked. an old man wearing a robe is coming up. she said. then Saul knew it was Samuel. and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground (15) Samuel said to Saul. why have you disturbed me by bringing me up. I am in great distress. Saul said the Philistines are fighting against me. and god has turned away from me. he no longer answer me. either by prophets or by dreams. so I have called on you to tell me what to do. (16)samuel said. why do you consult me. now that the lord has turned away from you and become your enemy. (17)the Lord has done what he predicted through me. the Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hand and give it to one of your neighbour to David (18)Because you did not obey the Lord or carry our his fierce wrath against the Amalekites. the Lord has done this to you today
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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Abiodun(m) .:. Thu, 29 Oct, 2020 - 03:53:03:pm GMT

God didn't need you. means that when god rejected you by want you are doing wrong. in the book of 1samuel 28vs 14 to 18 what does he look like .he asked. an old man wearing a robe is coming up. she said. then Saul knew it was Samuel. and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground (15) Samuel said to Saul. why have you disturbed me by bringing me up. I am in great distress. Saul said the Philistines are fighting against me. and god has turned away from me. he no longer answer me. either by prophets or by dreams. so I have called on you to tell me what to do. (16)samuel said. why do you consult me. now that the lord has turned away from you and become your enemy. (17)the Lord has done what he predicted through me. the Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hand and give it to one of your neighbour to David (18)Because you did not obey the Lord or carry our his fierce wrath against the Amalekites. the Lord has done this to you today
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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Abiodun(m) .:. Thu, 29 Oct, 2020 - 03:54:30:pm GMT

God didn't need you. means that when god rejected you by want you are doing wrong. in the book of 1samuel 28vs 14 to 18 what does he look like .he asked. an old man wearing a robe is coming up. she said. then Saul knew it was Samuel. and he bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground (15) Samuel said to Saul. why have you disturbed me by bringing me up. I am in great distress. Saul said the Philistines are fighting against me. and god has turned away from me. he no longer answer me. either by prophets or by dreams. so I have called on you to tell me what to do. (16)samuel said. why do you consult me. now that the lord has turned away from you and become your enemy. (17)the Lord has done what he predicted through me. the Lord has torn the kingdom out of your hand and give it to one of your neighbour to David (18)Because you did not obey the Lord or carry our his fierce wrath against the Amalekites. the Lord has done this to you today
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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Fashnet(m) .:. Fri, 01 Jan, 2021 - 12:48:15:pm GMT


@Gifted_Spec: Gifted I must let you know that you are absolutely correct also as I was only trying to point out my point. Just as you have put it, any man or woman hoping that he or she is something without the almighty God is a big FOOL.

We are nothing without God and God can do what he wants with or without any man and it is his grace we are enjoying.

**Help the needy and love everyone**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Fashnet(m) .:. Fri, 01 Jan, 2021 - 12:54:56:pm GMT


@Wisemamsam: Hello Wisemamsam I want say you are right but people should not start making themselves feel like they God can depend on them but the fact should be told that we can only depend on God as he is all we need in this life
**Help the needy and love everyone**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Flat(m) .:. Fri, 01 Jan, 2021 - 09:35:02:pm GMT

Hmmm! I can boldly say that God cannot do anything on earth without man because the earth is the territory of man and that a line justifies it. You see, we need to understand that we all have our role to play and we definitely have to do our part. Look at it from this angle, if you say that God does not need man, how will God go about the spread of the gospel. The scripture in the book of Mark 16:15&20 says that "And He said to them, Go into all the world and preach and publish openly the good news (the Gospel) to every creature [of the whole human race]. And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord kept working with them and confirming the message by the attesting signs and miracles that closely accompanied [it]. Amen (so be it)." From this scripture, we can clearly see that the spreading of the gospel requires the intervention of man to make it happen. You and I will not have heard of anything call gospel not to talk of laying hands on the scriptures, we would not have heard of anything called Christianity if not God using man to spread the gospel.
The scripture in the book of Psalms 50: 14-15 says that "Offer to God the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and pay your vows to the Most High, And call on Me in the day of trouble I will deliver you, and you shall honor and glorify Me." From this passage now, we can actually see that the relationship between God and man is a thing of exchange God collect the praises and thanksgiving of man and in return, God do deliver man from incident that are meant to happen and at the same time would make the day of evil not accessible to them.
So, we need God, and his needs us, what we need to do is to hold on to him and he will definitely reciprocate that.


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: ObakaEmmanuel(m) .:. Sat, 02 Jan, 2021 - 08:01:42:am GMT

Truly God doesn't need us we are the one that needs Him. That's where many people miss it. They thought God is so much in need of them and with that kind of sense of reasoning they are misbehaving. But that's not true. Have we forgotten where Jesus was speskisptk the people in the bible where he said even if the people are not ready to worship him, he can raise up stones to worship him.


Just the way some of us have been replaced with stones. Stones doesn't really mean the stones you see around. Stones are very strong, stones can withstand any condition. So the people God will even bring to replace you if you think He can not do without you, He will raise up men that even in bad and good time they will still be thanking God. So see serving God as a privilege.


**Obakaemmanuel**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Wonders(f) .:. Sat, 02 Jan, 2021 - 11:35:07:am GMT

I sat down one day and I was thinking about God and I realised that God do not need us in any way,he even said in his word that he can cause stones to start praising him. That is to show that he doesn't need us and we should never feel like we can be doing shakara for him.

If you decide to accept him wholeheartedly, it is for your own good so that your soul do not perish and end up in hell fire,it not like you are doing him any favour.He has his full Glory already!
If you decide to render service for him,it is still for your own good so as to get rewarded for it and then lay up treasures in heaven which he will keep safe for you.if you don't, who will not receive any reward in heaven,is it him?No,it is definitely you.
If you decide to abide by the rules and regulations in his word,it is for your good.The principles he set in his word is so that you can prosper and live a happy life.If you decide not to abide and follow what he said in his word
,it is no one else but you that will be miserable.
I know he created us to as to have a relationship with him but the truth is that if you think you are doing him a favour by connecting with him,he will turn to stones, they will praise him,have a meaniful relationship than you can ever have with him because there is nothing he can not do infact he is impossibility specialist!at the end of the day it is your own loose.
And still yet, knowing all of this,he still die for us so we can be redeemed and not perish all just for our sake!our sake alone.!indeed he is the true definition of LOVE.

**Wonders**


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   Re: God Doesn't Need You by: Wonders(f) .:. Sat, 02 Jan, 2021 - 11:35:07:am GMT

I sat down one day and I was thinking about God and I realised that God do not need us in any way,he even said in his word that he can cause stones to start praising him. That is to show that he doesn't need us and we should never feel like we can be doing shakara for him.

If you decide to accept him wholeheartedly, it is for your own good so that your soul do not perish and end up in hell fire,it not like you are doing him any favour.He has his full Glory already!
If you decide to render service for him,it is still for your own good so as to get rewarded for it and then lay up treasures in heaven which he will keep safe for you.if you don't, who will not receive any reward in heaven,is it him?No,it is definitely you.
If you decide to abide by the rules and regulations in his word,it is for your good.The principles he set in his word is so that you can prosper and live a happy life.If you decide not to abide and follow what he said in his word
,it is no one else but you that will be miserable.
I know he created us to as to have a relationship with him but the truth is that if you think you are doing him a favour by connecting with him,he will turn to stones, they will praise him,have a meaniful relationship than you can ever have with him because there is nothing he can not do infact he is impossibility specialist!at the end of the day it is your own loose.
And still yet, knowing all of this,he still die for us so we can be redeemed and not perish all just for our sake!our sake alone.!indeed he is the true definition of LOVE.

**Wonders**


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