Family/Parenting » Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Kenny11973(m) .:. Tue, 25 Nov, 2014 - 05:31:44:am GMT

What do you think? Here is an excerpt from the speech of the Turkish president explaining his view on the issue: â€"You cannot subject a pregnant woman to the same working conditions as a man. â€"You cannot make a mother who has to breastfeed her child equal to a man. You cannot make women do everything men do like the communist regimes did…this is against her delicate nature.” I agree with him. I used to think the feminist movement was to reduce domestic violence (abuse on women), and give them rights to political positions, but I think they want more. Gender equality is even opposed to in the holy books. Ladies, what do you people really want? Men, why do our ladies want be equal?
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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Synthentic(f) .:. Tue, 25 Nov, 2014 - 01:29:52:pm GMT

In Islam, men and women are not considered equal, so, you may be right in saying your perspective according to the Qur'an, but you said "holy book", and (although, i know that there is only one holy book, and that is the Scriptures book), i suspect you are talking also about the bible condoning that a man and a woman is not equal... so, i ask you: can you make reference to the places where it says that men are supreme to women or that men are preferred by God?
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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Kenny11973(m) .:. Tue, 25 Nov, 2014 - 05:40:24:pm GMT

Men and women were created equal, yet different. And the fact that we’re different is wonderful. God didn’t make us to duplicate each other, but to complement each other. The point here is not that Adam was better than Eve, just as God the Father is not â€"better” than God the Son. Father and Son are equal in essence, power, glory, but they have different roles and the Son joyfully submits to the Father’s will ( 1 Corinthians 15:28). So in marriage a husband and wife are equal, even though Scripture tells the wife to joyfully submit to her husband’s leadership.
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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Administrator(m) .:. Tue, 25 Nov, 2014 - 09:23:08:pm GMT

Quote from kenny11973: Men and women were created equal, yet different. And the fact that we're different is wonderful. God didn't make us to duplicate each other, but to complement each other. The point here is not that Adam was better than Eve, just as God the Father is not "better" than God the Son. Father and Son are equal in essence, power, glory, but they have different roles and the Son joyfully submits to the Father's will ( 1 Corinthians 15:28). So in marriage a husband and wife are equal, even though Scripture tells the wife to joyfully submit to her husband's leadership.

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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Kenny11973(m) .:. Wed, 26 Nov, 2014 - 03:32:12:am GMT

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Quote from kenny11973: Men and women were created equal, yet different. And the fact that we’re different is wonderful. God didn’t make us to duplicate each other, but to complement each other. The point here is not that Adam was better than Eve, just as God the Father is not â€"better” than God the Son. Father and Son are equal in essence, power, glory, but they have different roles and the Son joyfully submits to the Father’s will ( 1 Corinthians 15:28). So in marriage a husband and wife are equal, even though Scripture tells the wife to joyfully submit to her husband’s leadership.

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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Kenny11973(m) .:. Mon, 29 Dec, 2014 - 12:29:40:am GMT


@Administrator: Please what is the meaning of jjjjj.
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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Funmo(m) .:. Wed, 04 Feb, 2015 - 05:31:49:pm GMT

GENDER EQUALITY: THE UNNECESSARY DEBATE

Just yesterday, a female pal of mine who happens to be a law student got into a lengthy discourse with me and another male pal in our whatsapp group. She runs an NGO, Girls' pride initiative, and I love what the mission and vision of the project is about - women empowerment and help. I actually sparked the whole conversation when I asked "Barrister, are you a feminist?". She said she was an apologetic one and my male pal said he is also a (male) feminist. I an pro-equal rights for all genders, and that made the three of us be on the same page, only that we didn't come to conclusion as to what feminism is all about.

I was of the opinion that there is African and European feminism. Something she agreed with. Our male pal wanted shared responsibilities between both genders, we agreed with him. But we differed on the issue of statistics, she claimed Nigeria sits on number 118 out of 134 in the gender equality index that united nations made. We felt the numbers didn't look true, since if two of us believed in gender equality, and we have ten out of hundred pals that do, then that united nations statistics had a fault.

Yet, we all felt the gender equality debate should not be happening in 2015. Not with the level of exposure available to mankind. We might have been wrong, seeing that the whatsapp group of 8 we are in consists of essay winners. With our female pal being the only female out of the winners. We could be regarded as intellects, youths of different vision and recognizable exploits. All humans are equals, females should not be sidelined for no reason. Not for physical fragility or extreme emotional difference.

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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Velisa(f) .:. Wed, 03 Apr, 2019 - 01:14:42:pm GMT


@Synthentic: Starting from the time of creation. A man was formed by God. He made man fully after his own image. And later made a woman out of a man. The time, the structure, the wisdom, the extraordinary features placed on man cannot be compared to what was placed on a woman who was made out of a man.


Genesis 2: 7, And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life: and man became a living.

Verse 18, And the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone I will make him a help meet for him.

Verse 21, And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept, and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof.

Verse 22, And the ribs which the Lord God had taken from man made he a woman, and brought her unto a man.

Another thing is, the woman is made subject to man. 1 Timothy 2: 11- 14. The woman is expected to learn in silence with all subjection.

And the Bible also state the women to be weaker vessels. Not like the men. so, there can't be an equality. Some women will say what a man can do, a woman can do better. I hope they know there place in the Bible.

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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Gooddypye(f) .:. Tue, 16 Apr, 2019 - 11:26:05:am GMT

" i used to think the feminist movement was to reduce domestic violence (abuse on women), and give them rights to political positions, but I think they want more. "

My dear, that was the same thing I felt too. But you are very right, they want more. There steps are no more on domestic abuse or violence but wants to take charge. They wants to do better than men. They wants to be the head, they want to be respected at the home.

Even God who created the heaven and earth, and create man and woman. He didn't make both to be the same. He tag them as the weaker vessel. And also adviced women to be submissive to their husband.

The Bible says, the man is the head of the woman, while God is the head of the man. Woman be submissive to the head. But I think this feminist movement is making them feel the head. As men could no more chastise their wives.

Women, I hope you will know that, no matter how old you are. The man is still the head. Drop your pride and obey. Don't just be foolish in obedience, that's just all. Stop saying you can do better than men. It will ring on your body at old age and child birth.

Strength was given to man because they don't pass through child birth and home stress. So, they use their strength to provide for the home while the little you have is for taking care of the home and child care.

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Re: Equality Between Men And Women Is Against Nature. by: Confidant(f) .:. Thu, 11 Jul, 2019 - 11:29:06:am GMT

"As a husband, I won't pray for my wife to be bigger than me, I am the head"

This is a global default, just a lot more emphasised in Africa. Your being a "man' is heavily rested on your ability to be the head of your home by being the biggest source in the home, be it knowledge, finance or even physical strength.

Males are schooled for the first 30+ years of their lives on this being the way to be a man. "Work hard so you can take care of your family, or do you want your wife to take care of you?" to which everybody screams "NO".
Similarly, females are brought up to accept this setting. The "go forth and be "acquired' then limited for that is the way of the Lord" mentality, fully implanted by age 20.

Do I want my wife to be bigger than me?

Honestly, I don't even know what that question means because she does not own anything, I do not own anything either. Everything is own by us, so it doesn't really matter who is bigger, we are as big as the stronger of us is. If my maximum is 70% for example, praying for her to be bigger than that is praying for myself to be bigger than that! So yes, I pray to reach my maximum then I pray for her to top that maximum. Why be bothered? you are getting the maximum you prayed for!

You find, this is difficult to follow because couples never really start out together as a team. "my money', your money', "my car', "your car', "my house', "your house'. You'd think this is common with just men till you see women with property quoting scriptures on how their things belong to them and the husband's property belongs to all.
This, added to upbringing, is why we are where we are today.

Question: Why are we afraid of our wives being bigger than us?
Answer: So that we won't be turned into "wives' while they run us around.

This mind-set really is flawed but unfortunately, it is something that happens.

Where it starts to get confusing is how a man will become scared of being made the "wife'. This goes back to what a wife means to us in the first place. How bad is our definition of what a wife is that we dread the thought or anything that takes us there. As you are reading this, what's coming to your mind? Grind pepper, wash pants, change diaper, cook and .. LOL, it is enough to be scared over to be honest. If we improve the definition of what and who a wife is, we'd find, it need not be as bad as it currently is.

What, you want to protest that you treat your wife the best? Do you wish to become the wife then?
Don't worry, you don't need to answer that.

It is thought that women with more, are stubborn and difficult to control, and to be honest, there are examples all over the place but if attention is paid to personal leadership traits and setting the union up with an all-inclusive structure, it really wouldn't matter who owns what or who is bigger.

Men will start a relationship with a mind-set that a woman that is bigger than you cannot be controlled, women will start the relationship with a mind-set that a man cannot be entrusted with one's things else he squanders it or use it to marry another wife.

This is how we have been raised and unfortunately, this will continue until we decide to raise our children to better ideologies.

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